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that indicated that to beat the case as well as the section just for your edification. this is behind number four in your binder. the operators were informed the the orders of the directors would take effect immediately. we can do this with a cover sheet indicating this immediately and they should begin to comply with these conditions. >> with respect to the issue
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number12 and the fact that the information would be retained. i know we received an opinion from the city attorney's office, can you speak to that condition? >> the commission can take a read of this set of conditions. we would like to amend these conditions if you have a question regarding that. i'm not sure how to speak to the legal opinion or if that is appropriate. if the commission desires to
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amend these, i think that you are well within your rights to do so. >> i have nothing further. >> so, this is no longer an action item? >> i don't know if you need to take any action based on the withdrawal of the appeal. are there any other questions? public comment, would anyone like to address this item? >> and there was a murder there on -- [inaudible]
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[inaudible] -- 100 property owners and residents in the marine and has never been consulted on anything related. i would really ask you in your procedures to try to introduce something where the local neighborhood association can be notified if something that affects their neighborhood will come up for consideration by this commission. for example, the amendments and the restrictions put on the security plan, i have never seen them or if i have a right to see them this is very disturbing to us that we have murders in our
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neighborhood and we are in the dark as to what is going on. >> thank you. make sure you leave your contact information with the staff. >> are there any other members of the public? we will call the next item, number five, review and possible action to revise the security plan for the place of entertainment permit number ec- 934. >> as i referenced in the director's report, we brought this item before you on the agenda because there has been a number of incidents over a short amount of time at this location and this is a cause for concern. the letter that was sent is
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behind my director's report memo there's also the security plan that was submitted to us on the third of december. this is an opportunity for you to talk to the same new operators and discuss the revisions of their security plan, additional conditions, and i think that -- the director added to that and that was a stepping off point for a set of decisions that you might consider adding to this permit. this is consistent with what we have been doing in the past. if you don't have them, if he cannot find them. >> i have any --
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i don't >> this might be underneath your binder. >> i did not get that page. >> i believe that we had a lot of the operators here and a representative for you to speak to this item as well. we have not done this very
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recently and there is not a lot of forms to this and in he can take whatever action is necessary. >> ok. are there any questions? , ok. >> good evening, members of the commission. this is a family-run operation. there are 2-members of the family here. -- there are two members of the family here. since the security notice, they have taken this matter very seriously, they were open this weekend but i don't believe there was a single problem.
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they had trouble with the police department. the they had a lot of security outside to make sure that this was cleared. the promoters have cut -- have been cut down to basically 1. they are doing some in-house promotions. they have taken these problems very seriously. they have a much more secure operation. we have just seen these proposed conditions. we have taken a look at them.
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we have only had a few minutes to look sell well with like a chance to put this moment over, maybe they will suggest some alternates, hard to say. this place is for sale and that the family would like to get out of this business. we are talking to three groups of buyers and we would like to have them with input into the plan. if in january, someone is there on a temporary license, we would like to have the buyers, along and make sure that this is an operation. >> thank you. >> if this place is for sale, if it changes ownership, this does not carry over to the new
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owners, correct? >> correct. >> the correct -- the request for a continuance needs to run counter. would it be more logical to get these in place? >> that might well be. we have just had a chance to look at them tonight. the sale could take months or it could go very quickly. >> there are only two conditions that i see as relatively controversial, the first will be no new patrons will be allowed it in tree until 1:00 p.m.. the second would be number 16, requiring the officer to hire either a 10-b officer or a san francisco patrol specialist during all hours that they have entertainment.
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>> we will consider the cost of the cameras which may or may not factor in. we don't want to put this off until after the sale. we want to propose this. >> i am not inclined to want to delay this. these are the only two that i have questions about. the remaining conditions seemed to be pretty standard. >> most of these things we are in compliance with. >> the security plan that you
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have given us, are you familiar with that? >> i am not. >> then you are not qualified to answer any questions? >> oh, yes. >> how does someone who deals with operations. you have stopped using promoters? >> i believe that this was limited.
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>> how often are you open? >> we are open on saturday. >> i want to address some issues because i want to understand what you are doing. you want to make sure that people don't have any metal weapons. what do you do about weapons that are not metal. >> [inaudible] >> how are your security guards trained? >> i believe they're trained a through the security company? >> what is the name of your company? >> [inaudible] >> have you had a chance to look at these at all? >> yes. >> to you have any problems? >> no, not at all.
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>> i don't have any problem. >> having been to the heights, i've never seen security once. the security does that downs. i have never seen anyone -- nor have i seen distinctive uniforms. this is usually a uniform. last weekend, we did not have any. we had upwards of three to four
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units parked in front of the -- from about 1:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m.. >> would you like to comment about the issue of the ones being seen. >> we have had her for a month now. >> how long have you had the one? >> i have been there for about a year and a half. >> can you explain what the reasoning is behind that? >> number16, directly across the street is a small strip mall.
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there is like a walgreen's or others and the parking lot holds anywhere from 15-20 cars. why we put it this commission the bond is that we have seen a direct. relation between that and parking lot and it's up. -- we have seen a direct relation between that parking lot and of the club. i watched two different vehicles parked in the parking lot, crank up the sound, and dance in the parking lot, shut their car down and then go to the club. that parking lot is a catchall, people who are not point to the club and they will sit across
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the street and as people going to and from the clubs, these people will cause problems. this is not like there are other streets going on. if this club was not there, there would be literally nothing going on. we have observed a constant for traffic between the parking lot -- as far as i know, the club has no ownership, legal right to that parking lot. we have seen a continuous problem created in the parking lot. >> this is more than 100 feet from the club itself. >> one of the reasons why we
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recommended -- for the patrol officer is -- and they will have more leeway than private security. tentatively, they would have to use it. they have a much broader range of jurisdiction of where they can and cannot go. >> i get your reasoning.
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>> you could probably hang up chains. i could expand this to the greater area. >> are there any more questions? okay, is anyone else? >> we have not send note to any of these conditions.
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there is no notice of this at all. >> is anyone else that would like to address this issue? >> does anyone have a motion? >> i move to modify the security plan to include the 16 conditions. >> please call the roll. >> i have problems with number one, no new patrons will be allowed into the thing you.
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this is licensed to operate until 2:00 a.m.. this is imposing a hardship and they are legally allowed to operate even if the operation is allowed to operate for conditional hours. this is -- for us to restrict entry. >> i would accept this amendment.
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>> can we condition if there is no intimate present? is that whether or not they can let patrons in even if the permit stops at 1:00 a.m.? >> entertainment is this not.
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>> i would like to caution -- net know the entertainment after 1:00. no d j's no nothing. >> is there second? >> i second. >> the motion was amended and seconded. >> shall i call the role? >> i have had a quick conversation from some of our units. future issues like this -- this is possible that we can do
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something like this. this does not talk about when they can serve alcohol. for future information, that is perfectly ok. >> there continues to be a problem, we can revisit that. orr anymore measures. >> ok. >> we have completed a public comment. item number six, police department's comments and questions. >> does the police department want to chime in? >> so that we are working with
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accurate information, this does not speak to hours of operation. -- can operate technically between 2:00 a.m., they just cannot serve more of beverages. -- alcoholic beverages. this speaks to sales, service, and consumption. certainly, we can be more restrictive than the state agency, this cannot be broader than the state agency on that point. >> it is conceivable that if there was a venue that we did not like. we could say, no patrons after 6:00 p.m.. you are telling me that is correct?
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>> well, you frame to this with if you don't like the place. >> us talk about trade, even though that they're licensed to sell are: until 2:00 a.m., can we restrict patrons after 6:00 p.m.? >> from the police department's perspective, we will speak to public safety. if we can articulate that it is in the public's best interest to restrict access, i would argue that we could do this. we recommend conditions every day of the week that are much more restrictive.
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this is not uncommon in a city of san francisco with over 4000 licenses. >> it is none too profitable to own a car that allows alcohol sales until 2:00 a.m. if you have no customers on the -- coming to the door.
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the place is currently for sale and that is a good thing and sometimes second be a bad thing. we are shifting our view of the situation and we have several tools available to us. that is something that we are currently looking at.
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they are taking a detailed look at this club. >> we appreciate that. is it any public comment?